TKL: Does TKL Knowingly Allow GMS to "Smear" Other EP Candidates.... on TKL's Blog?

TKL: Does TKL Knowingly Allow GMS to "Smear" Other EP Candidates.... on TKL's Blog?

by Bryan Ti on Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 10:02pm

  

"All my statements on the other candidates are positive. … There's no need to blow up their negative points, take their action in a most negative way. There's no need to." – TKL, in an interview with Yahoo News Sg

... but we know TKL’s sheepish tactic.

Although he may not make those statements himself, TKL has been posting articles by others which are critical of the other candidates on his own FB/blog.

Examples of postings attacking the other candidates that TKL has linked on his blog are as follows:

• http://tankinlian.blogspot.com/2011/06/foreign-students-policy.html
• http://tankinlian.blogspot.com/2011/06/cpf-cut.html
• http://tankinlian.blogspot.com/2011/06/track-record-of-dr-tony-tan.html
• http://tankinlian.blogspot.com/2011/06/candidates-for-presidential-election.html
• http://tankinlian.blogspot.com/2011/06/president-who-will-speak-up.html

With others blow up the other candidates’ negative points on his behalf, of course TKL can pretend to be honourable.

But is he?

I now suspected TKL practises an underhanded tactic too!

Most of these articles listed above are written by a blogger who goes by the nomenclature “Aurvandil”, a fervent SBF forummer.  Often, I have read of forummers who openly declare that Aurvandil is Goh Meng Seng’s alternative monicker.

Of course, it would not surprise you guys that GMS also hangs around those cyber-quarters very often.  He is quite infamous there.

Notice that Aurvandil’s first blog entry was on 14 May, after the GE. I suppose GMS was quite free by then.

This suspicion that they are the same person is reinforced by how Aurvandil seems to be often praising GMS or reminding people of what GMS has done or said.

These can be seen in Aurvandil’s comments at TOC, Sammyboy forum and even on TKL’s blog as follows:

• http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/hdb-95-per-cent-happy-with-their-flats-–-really-or-just-half-the-story/
• http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/breeding-a-subsidy-mentality-in-housing/
• http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/05/nsps-sec-gen-will-not-take-up-ncmp-seat/
• http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/08/gulfstream-jet-for-yog-flame-at-what-price/
• http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?78293-MBT-Admits-Tampines-Is-Very-Dirty/page3
• http://tankinlian.blogspot.com/2010/04/affordable-housing.html

And need I mention that GMS has stated that he will “try to help Mr Tan Kin Lian out in his Presidential Campaign as much as possible.”

Acting as TKL's venomous mouthpiece is a way to help TKL and hopeful appear as a political angel.

Although what I have presented above are not conclusive proof that Aurvandil and GMS are the same person, one should wonder at the high degree of coincidence.

Should we now question TKL whether he knows who Aurvandil, the person doing TKL’s dirty work, really is?

TLK Challenges TOC writer Ravi

Monday, July 4, 2011

Email exchange with Presidential hopeful Tan Kin Lian

I had an email exchange with Mr Tan Kin Lian recently and I am posting the exchange here in its entirety without any edits whatsoever.

Basically, Mr Tan had emailed me and asked why I had posted negative views about him, and I replied that I had not posted any negative views about him; that all that I had done was to re-post his own views which he had expressed in 2005, and the views of a letter writer, who disagreed with Mr Tan's views.

I must state for the record that although I am inclined towards Dr Tan Cheng Bock as my choice to be the next elected President of Singapore at the moment, (I haven't decided for sure, as Dr Tan has yet to get his Certificate of Eligibility to stand in the next Presidential Election) I have no personal feud with Mr Tan Kin Lian and have no intention of smearing any Presidential aspirant.

My intention in posting some of Presidential hopefuls previous comments and in asking them hard questions, is to contribute to the debate that Singaporeans are having as to who they would have as their next President.

For example, it was me who asked Dr Tan Cheng Bock pointedly, if he still felt the 'Marxist conspirators' were guilty. The question to Dr Tony Tan, 'you have won damages from opposition candidates who contested against PAP.  What is your view on using defamation suits to quell opposition?' is mine.

I hope through such hard questions and by placing the past comments/actions of the hopefuls in the spotlight, the electorate would have a peek into the mindset of the Presidential hopefuls.

---The Email Exchange---

TKL: Ravi,I find that you are taking a stand against me. It is all right for you to support TCB but it is not necessary for you to post negative views about me. I refer to your podcast here and to a few articles that you have written.http://pdfcast.org/pdf/penalise-those-that-resign-early-says-tan-kin-lian

Ravi: Dear Mr Tan, thank you for this email, but I did not post negative views about you and neither is the podcast linked here my views. These were your own views and the views of another letter writer to the Today Newspaper in 2005. I merely linked your own views and the rebuttal you received for expressing those views on TOC's FB. If you deem that they are negative, they are not my making nor the making of TOC. I expressed my own views here on the 3 presidential hopefuls: http://www.raviphilemon.net/2011/06/why-dr-tan-cheng-bock-is-still-my.html, and I believe I did not make any disparaging remarks about you; and that my observations on you were fair. I personally feel that all voters, have got to know the views of the Presidential hopefuls better, to make an informed decision come voting day. Although at this moment I do have a leaning towards Dr Tan Cheng Bock, I do not know yet if I would support him for the Presidential election, because he has not gotten his COE yet. But even then, my leaning towards TCB is my own and not that of TOC's. TOC may put out an editorial on the candidate for the Presidential election once the COE has been issued. I also hope that this email is not an attempt at asking me (or TOC) to self-censor our views, opinions and reporting which you perceive may be harmful or damaging to your bid to be the next elected President of SIngapore.

TKL: You have posted a few negative and unfair views about me. I know that you support Tan Cheng Bock but it is not necessary for you to be hitting me - especially in this podcast - where I do not have the chance to give a reply.

Ravi: Mr Tan, now you are just making assertions without any basis whatsoever. As I have pointed out in my earlier reply, what I have posted is NOT my podcast, I have NOT posted any negative or unfair comments about you, neither do I have any intention of 'hitting' you. Unless you have some proof of this, I would suggest you not make baseless accusations such as this, which attacks me unfairly. If you wish, you may post this email exchange in its entirety on your blog and so have your chance to give a reply. Thanks.

TKL: I have said my piece and do not wish to engage you further on this matter.

Cease or he will Sue

This guy has real problem with managing his profile. His efforts to erase his past with the PAP by downplaying his various roles he held with it goes towards addressing his own integrity. He has repeatedly made claims of his independence, repeatedly highlighted the association of the other candidates with PAP shows how dishonest he is.

When I first revealed his past, I did not use the term dishonest but his pattern of behaviour does indicate it. The Straits Times will never reveal or highlight the political importance of such roles of Branch Secretary or the Chairman of the Citizens Consultative Committee and this chap had capitalised on it.

He was one of very first cadre members of the party, a position he held for 30 years until one year after his retirement. You can only become a cadre in the early years if you are trusted and regarded as a party inner and not merely a follower as they select the all powerful CEC.

Get this - he was a PAP member and a PAP cadre member long before Tony Tan and Tan Cheng Bock became a member and pulled up their first pair of White pants as an adult. He has also being a member of the PAP for a longer period than both of them.

How he is now claiming to be an independent and pretends no association with the PAP is beyond me. Despite making some passing remark of the PAP, he has never revealed the intnal abuse of the PAP such
- use of the tax payer funded grassroots organisation to further the cause of the PAP
- does not reveal how grassroots are used by the PAP to campaign for them
- never revealed hoe many cadres are there or who they are despite the first question raised by someone in his own blog by asking the person who raised the question to ask an appropriate question
- never revealed anything at all about the PAP except that he felt their values have changed.

The other two candidates like many MPs were asked to join after being offered a slot as a candidate for the Parliament. He however volunteered to join as a member.

Martin Luther Tan Kin Lian

 "I can meet the expenses on my own, but I want the people to have the chance to contribute financially to the campaign as well. I do not wish to shoulder this arduous task and journey on my own, with the help of a few supporters. I hope that more Singaporeans will come forward to make my campaign into their own campaign as well."

Martin Luther Tan Kin Lian
June 2011

http://www.facebook.com/notes/tan-ki...55585777847416

My name is Tan Kin Lian. I am standing for election as President of Singapore.

Many people have told me that they want a President who can:

Be a voice of the people (speak where, parliament?)

Be independent of the PAP Government (after 30 years of being PAP cadre member)

Safeguard their CPF money and the national reserves (CPF money has nothing do with President, it's people money and nothing to do with state reserves, a dishonest claim)

If you give me your support and I get elected, I promise you that I will carry out these tasks diligently.

I come from a humble family background. When I was a child, I lived in a rented room and had to move residence a few times. Later, I lived in a HDB flat for 7 years. Today, I live in a ordinary house and like many Singaporeans, I have a car but often travel by bus and MRT. (for a man who had 5 mortgages with NTUC, he is talking about hdb, bus and mrt.)

I understand the struggle of many people who find it difficult to earn enough to meet the cost of living, have to travel in crowded public transport daily and have to face the competition for jobs. I am close to the ordinary people in Singapore and can be your voice to carry your views to the Government. (for a man who built a swimming pool in his office building using worker's fund, it hard to reconcile how close he is with the people)

I have never been a MP or minister in the PAP Government. As President, I will be able to think and act independently of the Government and take a different perspective in looking after the interest of the people of Singapore. I will work in cooperation with the Government to find solutions (the role of the president does not allow you to find solutions, another misleading and dishonest claim) that are best for the people.

In my decisions, I will guided by my personal values of honesty, fairness, positive attitude, courage and public service and by the views of the people (which I will actively seek). ( please do not talk about honesty, courage etc, your conduct does not suggest these)

I am qualified and have the financial knowledge to safeguard your CPF money and the national reserves. I had nurtured an insurance company for 30 years, looking after the savings of over 1 million people and managing assets of $17 billion. ( yet you are asking people to fund your campaign, what happen to the 5 properties and all your other investments)

I understand the need to be prudent in our investments, to avoid speculation and to invest for the long term. I can bring this knowledge to the duty of the President in safeguarding the reserves. (what happen to your earlier claim that you will influence investment decision)

I wish to run for President as a public duty. I do not wish to receive a large salary as President and will be willing to donate at least 50% of the salary to charity and other worthy causes. (you can even get FISCA of the ground after 2 years)

I hope that you will give me your support and will encourage your friends, colleagues, neighbors to support me. Please help me in spreading this message to them.(any news on the 100k signatures petition.)

Tan Kin Lian

Candidate for President of Singapore

Millionaire Tan Kin Lian - Testing the Character of Poor Singaporeans

Bryan Ti

‎"I want to TEST the CHARACTER of the Singaporeans to see if they are willing to come forward and play a part, or expect other people to fight for them. So far, a few people have come forward and are quite generous according to their capacity. I need more to come forward and make this into their struggle as well." - TKL [1]
[1] https://www.facebook.com/kinlian/posts/155657507840243

.... despite being a millionaire many times over from 30 years of CEO salary, TKL still wants to collect donations for his EP campaign.

To disguise his miserly ways, he instead calls his donation-collection a "test of the character of Singaporeans".

His struggle getting donations become Singaporeans' struggle.

If he can't get the money, Singaporeans fail.

Great!

Allegations against TKL - Part II

Bryan Ti
Disclaimer: Please exercise your discretion in whether you want to believe what I will be saying since the info is from my sources and not publicly available.

"I once am a ex-income staff working in bras basah hq. Let me give some egs of TKL's tyrant acts. 1) staffs that has the same views with him gets promotion like rocket. If the staff is a pretty young women, she can get double promotions within a year. One such eg is the female manager from actuarial dept and also the female marketing manger."

... TKL spoke on his blog about such 'rumours' being made on the internet[1]

So BT contacted his source who works/worked at NTUC Income while TKL was CEO.

This person confirmed that there was a lady in the late 20s from the actuarial department who received a "double promotion" just a few years before TKL left Income. She rose from executive to senior executive, and then quickly to manager within at most 1.5 years.

The gossip-mill in Income was then working in full steam that TKL was "involved" in the promotion.

I asked him whether the second promotion could be due to a sudden departure of an existing manager. He said "no", the actuarial managerial post was "newly and specifically created" for the promotee.

TKL had responded on his blog: " I do not recall of any specific person in this category."

So I asked whether TKL could have forgotten about this case. His reply: "Of course not!"

However, my source does not recall the marketing manager case.

As for TKL's roof-top swimming habits, I am told that the lunch-time gossip is such that female employees were aware that he used the pool and as such they would be well advised to avoid it unless...... wink wink (I say no more!)

I will also not talk about TKL's karaoke singing habits during company functions.... in DUET!

[1] http://tankinlian.blogspot.com/2011/06/malicious-smear.html

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‎"Some present and former employees of NTUC Income will probably have shivers down their spine if they hear their former boss wants to be the next President of Singapore.

If Tan Kin Lian runs without the support of his former employer, these employees will in all likelihood volunteer to help the candidates opposing him.

There are as many others, who will firmly stand by him, help his campaign and ensure he gets a good chance at being elected.

That is the kind of loyalty and reaction Tan Kin Lian attracts as a leader." - ex-NTUC Income legal staff [1]

....my analysis of this "leader" is this:

If TKL were indeed an excellent leader-cum-boss and had retired gracefully, almost all in his ex-organisation would have stepped forward enthusiastically to support his political endeavours, in this case, the EP contest.

If he was a reasonable boss who treated people fairly, maybe 50% of his ex-employees will come forward to support him, while the rest will remain apathetic and/or neutral.

But if he were one who was characteristically biased and often exercised favoritism towards a distinct group (who sucked up to him), it would be as what the blogger stated: most would volunteer to help his opponents while those had who cozied and in turn benefited personally from him will stand firmly by him as a form of gratitude.

[1] http://thinkhappiness.blogspot.com/2011/06/what-tan-kin-lian-for-president-means.html

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‎"Despite threats from Tan Kin Lian, I'm aware of an employee who brought up her complaint to the Minister for Manpower, the MOM Directors and NTUC Labour MPs. TKL demanded the complaint to be retracted.

This female employee had brought up complaints of management harasment against a TKL favoured manager - and they included complains about sexual advances. "[1]

....haha. The S-word has FINALLY surfaced!

Please note that I am not the first to bring it up. I had only previously winked (and winked).

I am not vouching for the veracity of this particular incident, although I did hear about complaints to MOM. But I predict that more stories about incidences of sexual indiscretions along Bras Basah will come up soon.

Mrs TKL's long-standing reservation about TKL's candidacy is going to come full circle. I have not confirmed whether Mrs TKL had forgiven him or all along been on his side.

PS. just because the S-word has reared its titillating head, I hope netizens coming to my FB don't get too excited or agitated.

[1] http://singstatistician.blogspot.com/2011/06/do-you-know-about-relationship-between.html

Allegations against TKL - Part I

Anonymous

Hey small guy...grow-up. 
Despite threats from Tan Kin Lian, I'm aware of an employee who brought up her complaint to the Minister for Manpower, the MOM Directors and NTUC Labour MPs. TKL demanded the complaint to be retracted.

This female employee had brought up complaints of management harasment against a TKL favoured manager - and they included complains about sexual advances. You know what the NTUC Income Management drummed-up charges of poor work performance and terminated her services. This employee had served almost 30 years with the NTUC movement and always had an excellent work performance record. She had served well and helped thousands of workers during her long career. She was a well loved and respected Industrial Relations Officer. She was one of the few who was awarded merit increments when ther was a wage freeze. Such was her performance and contribution.

The MOM officers who regularly played badminton with the NTUC Income senior managers --- dragged their feet at first but later stated that this employee being a senior executive cannot come under the MOM purview and suggested that the employee bring the matter to civil court. The MOM did not even bother with an official investigation into the matter. The disappointed employee did not proceed with civil action as by then TKL and his management team were willingly or otherwise replaced at NTUC Income. 

This dedicated and long serving employee's career was destroyed by the so called caring, fair and jutice concious CEO. Now that the person aiming for the highest office in Singapore. TKL may want to hold an open public inquiry on this. We will make all the available records and emails for scrutiny. 

You talk about one Manager at Jurong Town Council firing an employee without just cause...here you have a Presidential hopeful who have his bootlickers singing praises of how caring, justified and fair ---TKL is. TKL has put up that there will smear tactics ...Well you decide ... this is not the PAP or the media. We are the working class citizens of Singapore. Vote for him at your own peril.

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TKL's response:
Someone draw my attention to the smear postings by a "disgrunted" former employee of NTUC Income.

During my past 30 years in Income, I must have dealt directly with several hundred employees. I would have my share of poor performers and had to deal with some of them personally. Most of the cases were handled by the human resource managers, but the difficult cases were escalated up to me. Some employees, who did not liked the actions taken by the HR managers, also approached me directly through my open door policy. 

In making myself accessible to employees, I faced the risk of being caught in personal problems of various types, but this is unavoidable.

I dealt with the personal issues by adopting the values of honesty, fairness and positive attitude. I tried to make my interventions reflect a fair outcome to all parties, but this might not be possible in some difficult cases. My decision might not be accepted in some cases, but it was also unavoidable.

There were some unfair, negative remarks about the behavior of some of my managers. Most of my managers shared the same values as me and did not need to be "yes" men. I believe that most of them do act independently on what they feel is right, but I could not vouch for every one of their character.

I wish to address the defamatory remarks about about the mortgage loans that I had taken. I probably did take 4 or 5 mortgage loans during my past 30 years in Income, taken at different times. All of them were on the same terms as applicable to policyholders, including the limits on the total amount of the loan by the borrower. There were no discount on the interest rate for the staff, nor for me. Most of the properties were of modest value.

This disgrunted person had accessed confidential client records and had published the information maliciously and against the confidentiality regulations of the company.